Evrywhere I see a lot of POINTLESS compraison… totally POINTLESS comparison…

Let me explain…

Evryone wants to “demonstrate” how theyr “superb-ultra-high-clean-neat-easy-hyper-productive” framework or combo language-framework is. And how they try to demonstrate it?????? Of course building a new STUPID, DUMB ASSED, CRUD form……….

Let’s see a room a full of crudders:

C1) Oh what a joy! I made another pointless address book application… in less than X,

C2) X? You and you’re bloated framework are just slow as a fat bottomed pig. I can do that in Y(where Y<X, of course)!

C3) Hey man, slow down! You’re too slow… while you get up your IDE I can do two dumb assed crud!

Wow what a wonderful term of comparison, I really think that software engeeneers have to write a new metric!

The dreaded DAC(dumb assed crud)! So,man, DAC or DIE! We will do DAC World Champioship!

But let’s step back in our crudder-room and let’s throw in a developer with some experinece…

D) Ehem… guys.. well, you know, what if I hit the reload button?

C1,C2,C3) Ehm well, we are working on that… but wtf have you to hit that button???!

D)..Ok, let’s don’t touch it… and how did you handle foward and back button?

C1,C2,C2) Well… of course in dumb assed crud you don’t need to…. ehm next one plz

D) Ok, but at least you will handle multiple browser window/tabs(users love it… )

C1,C2,C3) You are unfair man! We just build address books… and… well…

and D, don’t worry, can find a huge number of those silly question… so, the point is that showing a form it’s not building an application…

so let’s examine a pratical example with some quotes:

http://dgoodwin.dangerouslyinc.com/turbogears-vs-jboss-seam-part-1(beacuse It was recently mugshooted…I’m too lazy to find anithing else but you can find a gazzilion of that…)

“I’ve used neither framework for anything substantial” … ok, guy that’s not a good start but anyway…

“I should explicitly state at the outset that I’m aware how drastically different these tools are.” wow! You get it man! Pls stop! Would you compare apples with pears???

“My goal is to develop a small database schema” WHOA!! Here we are!! The super-star-of-the-year DUMB ASSED crud!

and finally you get your DAC times…. but I can’ beat it!! MuuuuhuhuHAHUAHAHAHAHAHhhhahah I can install & build a PHP much fatser!!!AAHAHAHAHAHAH With my indiscussed DAC supremacy I will rule the world!

And some happy crudder can help me find how his framework/langauge perform in the FULL application lifecycle? Well ,you know, sometimes when you write something you eventually have to manatin it for years, integrate with other systems and find people can keep it running…

Having said that I have to say that Java have to react and adapt, because the new generation langauges have some good features, but compraing the crud speed really make me angry…

Ok, I hope you get the point… if u dont, well… happy cruddin’!